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	<title>Comments on: SCHNAPP, DONENFELD and the PULPS Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: Steven R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Worth Carnaham drew an earlier cover to Burten&#039;s Follies (December 1924),  I would not be surprised if he went back even earlier.  Burton was just finishing his NFL career a year or two earlier.  The Independent News that distributed the Quarterly Follies was actually &quot;Independent Magazine Distributors Co.&quot;, and earlier non-related company (Independent News was founded in 1934).  The 1924-1925 issues of Burten Follies&#039;s were 8x11, slick paper - a format not previously known to be printed at the Donnenfeld company.  However Burten was having his printing done at Donnenfeld after the stock market crash, at least by 1933.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth Carnaham drew an earlier cover to Burten&#8217;s Follies (December 1924),  I would not be surprised if he went back even earlier.  Burton was just finishing his NFL career a year or two earlier.  The Independent News that distributed the Quarterly Follies was actually &#8220;Independent Magazine Distributors Co.&#8221;, and earlier non-related company (Independent News was founded in 1934).  The 1924-1925 issues of Burten Follies&#8217;s were 8&#215;11, slick paper &#8211; a format not previously known to be printed at the Donnenfeld company.  However Burten was having his printing done at Donnenfeld after the stock market crash, at least by 1933.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://kleinletters.com/Blog/schnapp-donenfeld-and-the-pulps-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-32865</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comment, Harry, I&#039;m glad you enjoyed the articles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Harry, I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed the articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Donenfeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Donenfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 21:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aloha and thanks for the wonderful article about my grandfather and his company. It is always fascinating to find out new things about Harry and to have family legends legitemized by actual research. Again, mahalo for the great research and articles. Heck, Harry says thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha and thanks for the wonderful article about my grandfather and his company. It is always fascinating to find out new things about Harry and to have family legends legitemized by actual research. Again, mahalo for the great research and articles. Heck, Harry says thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Beau, I&#039;ll have to look further at these links and sites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Beau, I&#8217;ll have to look further at these links and sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Beau Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beau Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this neat look at the beginnings of Donenfeld&#039;s publishing empire and more specifically for the appreciation of some of the logowork on the girlie pulps.  Some of the pulp logos were very inventive and would later be mimicked in the comics.  It&#039;s probably hard at this point to give credit to the designers, but it certainly is fascinating to try.

I think that Whose Who source is correct in stating that the Irwin titles were Donenfeld&#039;s first attempts at publishing girlie pulps on his own even though he had fingers in Frank Armer&#039;s artists and models and girlie pulp magazines along probably with some involvement in Joey Burton&#039;s humor/girlie mags years earlier.  I&#039;d assume that the artist responsible on the two covers you show also designed the logos, as there is some art worked in (the adorning lassies).  The art on these titles is a little primitive compared to some of the other pin-up artists working at the time but have a very quirky charm.  The artist, notably, is Worth Carnahan (notice the C inside of the W) who was active as an artist and publisher at the dawn of golden age comics.  I recently picked up an issue of Joy Stories by the same artist, 1930-02:
http://i.imgur.com/ZP0kI.jpg
I haven&#039;t scanned the issue yet but here&#039;s the indicia page at least:
(link does not work, so deleted)

Or here&#039;s another cover by Carnahan, the earliest I&#039;ve seen by him for the first issue of &quot;Cap&#039;n Joey&quot; Burten&#039;s Follies Quarterly in 1925.  Independent News distributed and I suspect the Donny Press did the printing:
http://i.imgur.com/ENHXk.jpg
full issue scan available here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?icc4nwxbrsxinjz

Carnahan even published and did art work for his own girlie/humor title in the early 30s, Wild Cherries.

As for a little information on some of the titles you&#039;ve listed, La Paree began and ended a long run as a Donenfeld pulp. Pep Stories started as Pep! under Frank Armer as a pulp/artists model hybrid on nice paper, switched to a pulp format sans photos, and was eventually bought out by Donenfeld (who did the printing) by Donenfeld in 1932 when Armer hit some financial difficulties. Gay Parisienne was published by Deane (possibly just another of Harry&#039;s shell companies, it looks like it) but by 1932 was listed as a Merwil pulp (definitely one of Harry&#039;s, a tip of the hat to his editor Merle Hersey - who had been married to Harold Hersey, also of pulp fame).  Snappy began as you mention as Snappy Stories published by New Fiction which ran romance stories but started to get into some spicier fare with pinup covers in the 20s and then switched to Snappy Stories and Pictures in 1927 and 1928. Lowell publications resurrected the title simply as Snappy (and also apparently tried a couple more issues of Snappy Stories) around 1929/1930 and Donenfeld took it over in 1932 and it ran until the end of the girlie pulp era in 1938, a long and interesting life!

Off of the top of my head, some other Donenfeld logos you might consider would be Tattle Tales or Bedtime Stories, examples of which you can find here:
http://darwinscans.blogspot.com/2012/01/happy-new-years-girlie-pulp-covers-of.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this neat look at the beginnings of Donenfeld&#8217;s publishing empire and more specifically for the appreciation of some of the logowork on the girlie pulps.  Some of the pulp logos were very inventive and would later be mimicked in the comics.  It&#8217;s probably hard at this point to give credit to the designers, but it certainly is fascinating to try.</p>
<p>I think that Whose Who source is correct in stating that the Irwin titles were Donenfeld&#8217;s first attempts at publishing girlie pulps on his own even though he had fingers in Frank Armer&#8217;s artists and models and girlie pulp magazines along probably with some involvement in Joey Burton&#8217;s humor/girlie mags years earlier.  I&#8217;d assume that the artist responsible on the two covers you show also designed the logos, as there is some art worked in (the adorning lassies).  The art on these titles is a little primitive compared to some of the other pin-up artists working at the time but have a very quirky charm.  The artist, notably, is Worth Carnahan (notice the C inside of the W) who was active as an artist and publisher at the dawn of golden age comics.  I recently picked up an issue of Joy Stories by the same artist, 1930-02:<br />
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/ZP0kI.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/ZP0kI.jpg</a><br />
I haven&#8217;t scanned the issue yet but here&#8217;s the indicia page at least:<br />
(link does not work, so deleted)</p>
<p>Or here&#8217;s another cover by Carnahan, the earliest I&#8217;ve seen by him for the first issue of &#8220;Cap&#8217;n Joey&#8221; Burten&#8217;s Follies Quarterly in 1925.  Independent News distributed and I suspect the Donny Press did the printing:<br />
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/ENHXk.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/ENHXk.jpg</a><br />
full issue scan available here:<br />
<a href="http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?icc4nwxbrsxinjz" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?icc4nwxbrsxinjz</a></p>
<p>Carnahan even published and did art work for his own girlie/humor title in the early 30s, Wild Cherries.</p>
<p>As for a little information on some of the titles you&#8217;ve listed, La Paree began and ended a long run as a Donenfeld pulp. Pep Stories started as Pep! under Frank Armer as a pulp/artists model hybrid on nice paper, switched to a pulp format sans photos, and was eventually bought out by Donenfeld (who did the printing) by Donenfeld in 1932 when Armer hit some financial difficulties. Gay Parisienne was published by Deane (possibly just another of Harry&#8217;s shell companies, it looks like it) but by 1932 was listed as a Merwil pulp (definitely one of Harry&#8217;s, a tip of the hat to his editor Merle Hersey &#8211; who had been married to Harold Hersey, also of pulp fame).  Snappy began as you mention as Snappy Stories published by New Fiction which ran romance stories but started to get into some spicier fare with pinup covers in the 20s and then switched to Snappy Stories and Pictures in 1927 and 1928. Lowell publications resurrected the title simply as Snappy (and also apparently tried a couple more issues of Snappy Stories) around 1929/1930 and Donenfeld took it over in 1932 and it ran until the end of the girlie pulp era in 1938, a long and interesting life!</p>
<p>Off of the top of my head, some other Donenfeld logos you might consider would be Tattle Tales or Bedtime Stories, examples of which you can find here:<br />
<a href="http://darwinscans.blogspot.com/2012/01/happy-new-years-girlie-pulp-covers-of.html" rel="nofollow">http://darwinscans.blogspot.com/2012/01/happy-new-years-girlie-pulp-covers-of.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article.
It can be confusing trying to figure out who owned what back then, what with all the multiple company names and such.  Many get confused by them (I know I do at times).  AFAIK, Frank Armer sold out to Donenfield, but continued to work for him as the editor.
What is also confusing (to some) is that many publishers had their hands in different things.  They were often times publishing pulps (sometimes with different lines), comic books, other magazines, and sometimes books.  And collectors of one type of item could be totally oblivious to the rest.  I&#039;m sure there are few DC Comics fans who have any idea of the pulp magazines (especially the spicy pulps) done by Donenfield.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.<br />
It can be confusing trying to figure out who owned what back then, what with all the multiple company names and such.  Many get confused by them (I know I do at times).  AFAIK, Frank Armer sold out to Donenfield, but continued to work for him as the editor.<br />
What is also confusing (to some) is that many publishers had their hands in different things.  They were often times publishing pulps (sometimes with different lines), comic books, other magazines, and sometimes books.  And collectors of one type of item could be totally oblivious to the rest.  I&#8217;m sure there are few DC Comics fans who have any idea of the pulp magazines (especially the spicy pulps) done by Donenfield.</p>
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